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I’m afraid that this is indicative of the de-valuation of life. Every day we are assaulted by violence. Iraq, Afghanistan, Virginia Tech, movies, games, lyrics, and here in London, the kids like nothing better than a good stabbin’! Life has become cheap. I understand the retisance of Black people in America to deal with the police. But what if Camron’s mother or child were shot? I suppose he’d become a vigilante. By removing themselves from the justice system, they are making there lives so much more dangerous. Which is fine if your millionare like Camron. But not so cool if your still in the “ghetto”. America is a simmering powderkeg of hate and violence, and I don’t think it’s gonna change. This ain’t just a black thing either. There is a long tradition of mistrust of the Feds and anti-establishment behaviour in the states, stretching back to the earliest days of Government and still goes on today. Waco anyone?
what about all the white millionares in america, white corperate america, the white millionare politicians? they ain’t snitching either. what REALLY happened on 9-11? NOBODY IS SNITCHIN’.
if you saw something like a 1/3 of your community locked up, given long sentences, chewed up by the system, with their right to vote and change things taken from them, you wouldn’t snitch either. “cuz the judge is sayin LIFE like it ain’t someone’s LIFE”. they’re boycotting the legal system because it’s done them wrong.
You know what bothers me about all these millionaire rappers? They think they’re all “gangsta” and “dangerous” and “drug dealin’” and “bitch stealin”, while in real life, a 8 y/o kid could kick their ass. What a pussy this Cam’ron guy is. What a pussy Busta Rhymes really is. Grew up in the hood? Yeah right. Probably got a condo in the suburbs. My God, I don’t understand why the youth doesn’t see right through these thought-up-by-managers-to-sell-more-records-imago’s of 50 Cent and the like. It’s all as fake as Britney’s singing, and all the kids eat it like it’s McD’s. Even here in Holland, youth start looking up to these ‘rappers’. What Paris and Britney are for the girls, these guys are for the boys. And that’s not at all good. Let’s hope they all grow out of it.
some of your points are valid, Justin, but I have to disagree on a few things:
1) it’s kind of implied that this “Stop Snitching” attitude is limited to this generation of rappers and fans. But NWA and Public Enemy as well as others had songs about police that were intended to show that the police don’t care about black people.
2) Cam’ron is from Harlem, i don’t know about Busta.
3) I have a hard time saying that gangsta culture shouldn’t be sold like it is through hip-hop and clothing and movies, etc. For me, I like listening to Clipse’s songs about slingin’ or Wu-Tang’s songs about the hard life growing up. Both are forms of escapism for me, and the both give me some more perspective on life.
However, I think the problem is that gangsta culture is embraced in certain communities. People grow up thinking that dealing drugs is great, because they get the money and everything that goes with it. Gangsta rap didn’t create this image, but it certainly isn’t helping it go away.
4) I really think that while I can’t agree with Cam’ron, you gotta admit he knows what he is doing. He knows that his “beef” with 50 will sell records. He knows that keeping the gangsta image will sell records. Is what he doing responsible? No. But the society we live in is ruled by money, so he is doing the smart thing.
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April 23rd, 2007 at 19:46
You’re still a few steps ahead..
April 23rd, 2007 at 23:05
great friend of mine has critical analysis of this important topic.
http://www.joemande.com/
enjoy, and oh yea, there’s a serial killer in 4e.
April 23rd, 2007 at 23:15
I LIVE IN 4E!!!! FUCK!!!!!
April 24th, 2007 at 02:53
wow… I want to see some more of Cam’ron talking about values… what a dumbass
April 24th, 2007 at 02:54
then again I’m not platinum… shit
April 24th, 2007 at 15:36
I’m afraid that this is indicative of the de-valuation of life. Every day we are assaulted by violence. Iraq, Afghanistan, Virginia Tech, movies, games, lyrics, and here in London, the kids like nothing better than a good stabbin’! Life has become cheap. I understand the retisance of Black people in America to deal with the police. But what if Camron’s mother or child were shot? I suppose he’d become a vigilante. By removing themselves from the justice system, they are making there lives so much more dangerous. Which is fine if your millionare like Camron. But not so cool if your still in the “ghetto”. America is a simmering powderkeg of hate and violence, and I don’t think it’s gonna change. This ain’t just a black thing either. There is a long tradition of mistrust of the Feds and anti-establishment behaviour in the states, stretching back to the earliest days of Government and still goes on today. Waco anyone?
REMOVE THE GUNS!
April 24th, 2007 at 19:07
what about all the white millionares in america, white corperate america, the white millionare politicians? they ain’t snitching either. what REALLY happened on 9-11? NOBODY IS SNITCHIN’.
April 24th, 2007 at 21:07
Wow, that’s disturbing. Thanks for posting it!
April 25th, 2007 at 02:55
Wow, is Camron a fucktard. I love trap-rap, etc. despite the obvious ethical issues, but at a certain point shit is just beyond reason.
April 25th, 2007 at 05:50
ya i’m fo sho not paying for cams next record. he would want me to steal it anyways
April 25th, 2007 at 17:04
footfwerk: don´t worry.. go ahead, steal that shit, I won´t snitch!!
April 26th, 2007 at 09:08
that’s nothing new.. that’ s what happens in southern italy with mafia… snitching=”omertà “… watch out
April 26th, 2007 at 18:48
shit is real in these streets cuzin…
example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCzDecFe3Lw
April 28th, 2007 at 20:04
if you saw something like a 1/3 of your community locked up, given long sentences, chewed up by the system, with their right to vote and change things taken from them, you wouldn’t snitch either. “cuz the judge is sayin LIFE like it ain’t someone’s LIFE”. they’re boycotting the legal system because it’s done them wrong.
April 29th, 2007 at 01:14
You know what bothers me about all these millionaire rappers? They think they’re all “gangsta” and “dangerous” and “drug dealin’” and “bitch stealin”, while in real life, a 8 y/o kid could kick their ass. What a pussy this Cam’ron guy is. What a pussy Busta Rhymes really is. Grew up in the hood? Yeah right. Probably got a condo in the suburbs. My God, I don’t understand why the youth doesn’t see right through these thought-up-by-managers-to-sell-more-records-imago’s of 50 Cent and the like. It’s all as fake as Britney’s singing, and all the kids eat it like it’s McD’s. Even here in Holland, youth start looking up to these ‘rappers’. What Paris and Britney are for the girls, these guys are for the boys. And that’s not at all good. Let’s hope they all grow out of it.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:03
nice to hear somebody talking like justin sometimes
May 2nd, 2007 at 07:00
some of your points are valid, Justin, but I have to disagree on a few things:
1) it’s kind of implied that this “Stop Snitching” attitude is limited to this generation of rappers and fans. But NWA and Public Enemy as well as others had songs about police that were intended to show that the police don’t care about black people.
2) Cam’ron is from Harlem, i don’t know about Busta.
3) I have a hard time saying that gangsta culture shouldn’t be sold like it is through hip-hop and clothing and movies, etc. For me, I like listening to Clipse’s songs about slingin’ or Wu-Tang’s songs about the hard life growing up. Both are forms of escapism for me, and the both give me some more perspective on life.
However, I think the problem is that gangsta culture is embraced in certain communities. People grow up thinking that dealing drugs is great, because they get the money and everything that goes with it. Gangsta rap didn’t create this image, but it certainly isn’t helping it go away.
4) I really think that while I can’t agree with Cam’ron, you gotta admit he knows what he is doing. He knows that his “beef” with 50 will sell records. He knows that keeping the gangsta image will sell records. Is what he doing responsible? No. But the society we live in is ruled by money, so he is doing the smart thing.